I know I have a lot of things working in my favour and so far I’ve only had one friend tell me she was interested in taking things further. That was about the most unambiguous show of interest I got from a friend, most of the time they give up before they get that far.
One of the people I worked with in Brisbane asked if guys really are that clueless, and how there was only ever one guy who knew that she liked him, and he was a bastard (he told her he wanted to see if he got a better offer for the formal before asking her out) so she gave up on him. She tried giving what she sees as obvious hints, before she finally gets desperate enough to ask a friend to tell the guy that she likes him. But we know that doesn’t always work either.
Don’t expect them to ask you out, most girls aren’t after a puppy as their mate, they’re not looking for someone to train, and you don’t want the ones who are. If you can work out if they’re interested before it gets that far, unless you’re a completely loss, or if you’re posted to a place where there really are no available women (you’re at a mine for instance), but if it gets to the point where you get told someone likes you, I’ll put it this way-
You have a 2d6 bonus to your roll to success in asking them out to something, if it’s one of her close friends then make that 2d10, on the basis that her friends probably aren’t going to be that cruel to her. If that something is a coffee or lunch date, then add +2 as it’s harmless, if you fail by 5 or less they’ll bring their friends, finally you’ll get a penalty of about -25 if you ask them to go on an overseas trip with you.
If they like you, and they’re sane enough to worth being with, they will help you and try to keep you on track, but they’re women, so they can’t comprehend that guys simply don’t get hints, much the same way they can’t read maps or give directions.
There aren’t many times when it’s up to us to make a move, but we’re expected to start things (even if she was the ones who put everything in place for it, she still need to pretend you were the one who was interested and got things going, she didn’t make up the rules, don’t blame her for it).
Oh jeez, that really wasn't funny.
On another note, there ARE women in mines. I heard a young girl talking about it on the radio the other day. She was a cleaner or something, in one of the underground whatchamacallits.
She was saying she needed to "get away from it all" and spent 3 months out there somewhere.
Apparently she earned a lot of money for it, and saved a fair bit of it too (nothing to spend your money on out there).
Anyways, she said there were heaps of women that do jobs such as driving trucks etc. within the mines, not nessesarily mining.
I was thinking of mines as I was trying to think of a place where you are unlike to meet new people, say your group were sent out for a three months and were with the same people the whole time, if all of them are attached, then there's little you can do. I didn't mean that there wouldn't be any of them there at all.
Actually, I don't think that's common as you do get taken back to civilisation (of some sort) every so often.
I'll post topics on near-about anything (except apple).
Paulo will post topics about Women and Linux.
Michael will post topics about Women and Warcraft
Nathan will post topics about Apple and Warcraft
Tim will post topics about Apple and Women.
Harpreet will post topics about Women and Warcraft, but mainly warcraft.
So it's really no wonder that posting about women has totally exploded this blog. Maybe I should update the Team Choko page with the new information...
When you go to your first lecture for a subject, do you not have certain expectations about what the lecturer would do? How about when you arrived at a party where you don’t know half the people and the host introduces you to the people there. Will you not say that after you’ve done that a few times you’ll see some patterns?
You will get the odd occasion when the pattern is broken, and they’re recognized as being different. Now when two people are interested in each other, would you now say that each time that happens they do something completely random and that there are no rules of thumb that can be applied? Why should that be so different?
And yes, I believe there are plenty of people who try to mix/max relationships (of all sorts), some of them do better than others, some are obviously players/users, while others do a lot better and manage to make a billion and still have a few friends. Some people are well grounded and aren’t susceptible to manipulation, but if you’ve studied psych you’ll find depressingly few who really are that way.
This of course makes it one hell of a lot less painful to demonize women as amoral, diseased, whores whom I want nothing to do with let along date if I got the chance.
From my point of view myself and females both being decent human beings are mutally exclusive until such time that I've actually had even the slightest positive relationship with any female. Ofcourse since I don't drink myself stupid is bars, and I don't try and sleep around with anything that moves. It's bloody obvious from my point of view whom should be considered indecent and demonized.
Maybe it's all because I missed out on having female friends because I never went to university or because I was bullied all through out my school life and harassed constantly when ever my sister is home or entered the same room as myself over the past 15+ years with my parents showing that they are completly ineffectual when it comes to preventing it or responding to it.
It doesn't really matter about the cause. All that matters is that having anything that even comes close to a positive relationship with females is completly foreign and alien to what I have experienced thoughout my life. So much so that it is extreamly difficult to even imagine a positive relationship with a female. And yet somehow when I interacted with them I still treated females better than most of the population only to be treated by them like I am some sub-human piece of trash.
So you'll have to excuse me for not having anything but an extreamly negative view of my chances of ever finding a mate or seeing females as horrible creatures that make me sick to be human.
Don't even bother trying to say something like "You'll meet the right person one day". I've heard it so many times already that it has no real meaning other than "I have nothing of any substance to offer".
Or it could be that how you act is so alien to them that they are scared off, refer to what I said about conformity. I remember in about year 7 how one girl mentioned how strange you were with the example of how you wrote about your large CRT monitor when you were supposed to write about someone dear to you or something like that.
You are angry because you choose to be that way. They don’t owe you anything and I wonder just how much you know about “most of the population”.
If you’re out somewhere, pay attention to what people are doing as that will be what they’re expecting, you don’t have to do that as well, but understand that it’ll be hard to find another way of interacting with them where you’re not seen as a freak.
They made the effort to learn how to interact with others in the acceptable fashion and for at least casual interactions, they expect that in turn. You won’t be an interesting enough a freak for many people to want to make an effort to be friends with you anyway so don’t blame them if they recognize that and do what makes the most sense for them.
Reject all humanity if you want, just don’t be upset if it rejects you in turn.
As for being angry or unpleasent I was often complimented on my social interactions being well above par. My complete and utter contempt for females is a somewhat recent event.
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